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Originally Posted by peppermintjohn

the plan rejects any of the melting pot/ assiciated nonsence of the US. and is no more a model like that of the united states than that of the soviet union, (note; both something to stay away from). no one european state can combat american capitalism and chinese communism by itelf. we must forget our own soverenty as for the first time all the peoples of europe will be nationally represented. A mere ramshackle alliance is not enough, and we can't allow factionalism and weakness, the european people must become one insulated entity, each nationality would have its own independence and the combined power of the whole o europe! only then can we defeat cultural, economic and millitary opposition.

It is clear that no one single European nation can face the forthcoming future of world blocs. However, the creation of a European [super-]state doesn't look to me like the solution.

It amazes me that so far no one has been able to present a model of Europe that ensures both the strength and the power of a future Europe before the rest of the world-to-come, as well as ensuring the preservation of the nations and the sovereignty of their states.

In my opinion, it cannot be said that each nation-state would undergo a national rebirth without presenting a design of how this would be achieved. The attraction of centralising power is too strong and it is that what would happen under any kind of European [super-]state, with the consequent loss of sovereignty of nation-states and the dangers derived from it.

Each single item (industry, agriculture, economy and trade, military, foreign relations, etc.) must be considered individually, and both for the common interest of Europe as a whole and for the individual interest of each nation.

Originally Posted by Lucas Corso

Oh yes, all divided and ruled by the U$Ans...

It doesn't have to be that way. What would be your proposal?