[alyster]

Thank you for a intresting point.

First the conventional army. Terrorist organisation, which are dengerous to us, are more of the global once. Meaning their main body is located somewhere in the 3rd world, from where their cells in West get funding, training and orders. We could name some terror organisations which operate only in West, like Aryan Nations for one. Or GRAPO, FNE the list can go on. They are much less of a threat because we can monitor them better, disarm them better and so on. With out having support from Afgan government we would be cut off to do anything about threats from there. And with organisations like Al-Qaeda we clearly have failed. Recents attacks in London have show that they still can carry out attacks. The fact that they mostly failed this time is pure luck. So to disarm these groups we have to go to their homes, disable their training facilities(yes military camps), disable their funding, disable their communications and lock up the mastermind behind it. It's like dealing with mafia, we must get all the way to the top of it, or the problem won't be solved. We can close down as many cells in Europe as we can, however there will be more. And some day one of them will succeed again. Also if some sort of a regime give shelter to the ones attacking us, it is as good as if they themselves would attack us. Had Taliban just mailed Osama to the US, they'd still be in power, wouldn't they? They would be even better off with greatful US aiding them.
Lets put it in another way, if Islamic Revolutionaly Guard would attack Israel, wouldn't Israel have to attack Iran back?

Secondly, yes I am not such a nationalist as many of you. I was invited here from politicsforum.org, because of one of my posts, where I said nationalism is much more normal in a national state, however would cause problems in multicultural state. 1/4 of people living in Estonia are Russians or russophied ukrainians or other such people. So we can not mail them back to Russia, they are as much Estonians as any other if the carry our passport. Some of them have lived here for decades. They are part of our society. Today the concept that Estonia is for Estonians and Germany is for Germans is outdated. We can stop the new immigartion perhaps, but if someone is already here, then they are here to stay. We just have to learn to accept it. However the main things for a nations(language and culture) can still stay. I am as much Estonian as any other and Russians here are just as much Russians in nationalist ways than they are in Russia. They speak Russian, they accept Russian traditions etc. Like the 9th of May - it is a very important part of post war Russian identity.
The state doesn't have to have direct links to "its nation". If we'd sit behind one table I think in politics I'd agree alot more with many Russians then I agree with some Estonians. In fact I probably have much more common with a my age Vova in Moscow, than 80 year old farmer in Estonia.
If anyone says to me race, skincolour, parents or reigion have something to do with a nationalism, then this is outdated. All we need is language and culture. We don't need a state which is only for Estonians(Germans) to treasure them. This race and religion stuff only causes hate.