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Old Sunday, July 22nd, 2007
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Default Re: Britain Blasts NATO Members Over Reluctance in Afghanistan

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A little while ago there was another "Estonian" who posted the same sort of thing here. I wonder if he's any relation to you?
Nope. You can check the IPs.

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Too many valid points
Haven't yet seen one.

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Nationalsocialists took over goverment after Hitler's NSDAP became the strongest faction in the Reichstag due to elections and allied with the National Conservatives. Many of those later bitterly rued that move.
However they did not have majority. In 1933 he was pointed a chanclor democradically, yes, however in 1934 he took power undemocradically, if you wanted to argue of the democradic point here. I however pointed out originally that last time right-wing nationalist got to power it ended with the biggest war and the worst genocide ever. I can't belive we have a nazi on this forum. No wonder you post BS.

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I am not your footboy, you can find it alone. Or you can't.
You said islam seeks world domination, yet you have failed to provide back-up for this claim - meaning your words are just waste or breath. BTW these sites had no such info as you suggested they had.

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Oh, when German troops entered the Baltics in 1941, many areas already were cleansed - not to mention those thousands Baltics woking in concentration camps for the Germans in Poland.
Read "Estonians in the German Service 1941-45" by Rolf Michaelis. Estonians weren't used in the Polish camps. And we're finno-ugrics, not balts, Latvians and Lithuanians are balts.

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Right-wing nationalists even loved this fact this much they tried to kill Hitler to stop this.
They didn't try to kill him because they disagreed with holocaust, but because they were losing the war. They had to make peace with western allies, but Hitler disagreed with it.

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Actually they had a strong socialistic wing
Socialist wing died with Ernst Röhm.

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How does this stand in contradition of a socialistic policy?
What ever kind of socialism we're talking about we're eventually talking about Karl Marx. Even the modern social democrats started off from the Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital.

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Even if you wanted you could not. You have no clue about anything.
I've always found it quite difficult to make commies understand the true nature of USSR. Comes out it's similar with nazis, they refues to belive their own history.

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So there were no terror attacks prior to 9/11.?
Contradiction to your own case of point. You just tried to prove terrorists are denegerous.

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What's with US/Western violent meddling in other countries affairs all the time?
What are you talking about? Perhaps that US stopped the Kuwait invasion by Saddam and saved the day. Or the fact that US deployed their forces to Germany to help stand against possible communist agression. Or the fact that thousands of yanks have died liberating Southern Korea so these people could decide themselves how to run their country. They tried the same in Vietnam, but sadly failed. Or are you pissed off that US sent their forces to Kosovo or Somalia and stop genocides? Little bit before you suggested US should have invaded USSR now this? Contradictions, contradictions, contradictions!

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It obviously causes you headache and sleepless nights, maybe I should start a pre-emptive strike and take a pill...
Italy just disarmed one of their cells in Europe. Sure, they are harmless

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And now you think the chances of new attacks became less imminent since foreign troops fight some militias instead of those really causing the terror?
If we'd succeed, then yes. However the progress is small. Indonesia has fought such islam fundamentalists for decades by now. Only in recent times has it shown progress. Their case proves war on terror can be succesfull if you deploy right tactics. I don't want my children watching every other year how a bomb killed in [insert European capital] tens or hundreds of people.

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These terror cells still exist. No invasion of any other land changed that thisfar. I fail to see German troops in Afghanistan prevent Muslims in Germany from raising funds, buying supplies etc... for terror attacks. Here Muslims are holy and Islam is the religion of peace, only those elwhere are evil, or what?
They still exist because it's Al-Qaeda's tactic currently. The first strikes on Afganistan weakend Al-Qaeda. They had to reshape their structure. Instead of a large network they have alot of smaller cells acting more independetly now.
However the training camps are not located in Germany, are they? If you'd read about the 9/11 terrorists based in Hamburg, you'd see that at one poit in their life they visited Afganistan or Pakistan.

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I said harmless for us, like Viet-Cong never threatened the US/West outside of Vietnam.
According to Domino theory if Vietnam would have fallen easily to VC, then the whole regions would have followed sooner or later.

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That does not show anything, NATO more and more is considered as hostile occupation force there, that's why more and more join Taliban.
Taliban actually provides them with quite nice wage

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USA and FRG are save heavens for terrorists too, they allow terrorists to train on their soil and even fund them. No wonder since these governments are terrorists themselves
Sources? Which terrorist training camp has been located in USA?

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That even more strenghtens my position as I said we must repatriate Muslims instead of invading their countries.
Do you happen to be a member of White Power movement?
We can not deport muslimes from Europe. What on earth are you thinking
EU needs immigrants, educated immigrants preferably. Otherwhise we'd face economical and social crise in next 50 years. We'd have too many senior citizens that our labour force has too big buren to carry.

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If you can not check your border properly you even should not daydream about securing occupied Afghanistan. Sorry.
And why is that? We eliminate Taliban's and Al-Qaeda's main body and even if they have some cells left pissed off at us, they atlist can not reach in their operations to us anymore. It's like fighting drugs. instead of spening years of finding out how drug dealers get them across the border(in which border guard is helpless), it's better to burn the fields in Columbia.

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No matter how often I repeat the solution, a mentally disabled never would understand it.
Muslims out of here, our troops out of there.
That's not called a solution, it's called a racism.

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they invited them into the UN as equal partner.
UN wouldn't have worked with out soviets. And they weren't equal members. From Union of Soviet Socialist Republics only 3 were allowed to UN.

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They incorporated communism into their liberal democracy.
That's absurd.

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Obviously somewhere in the house the US troops raided
House? The link you gave says a car


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Small and inefficient - not to mention illegal
Illegal? Because? Because Dönitz was the rightful succesor of the Führer?


Last edited by alyster; Sunday, July 22nd, 2007 at 16:04.
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