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Gere, unfortunately I only have a few minutes to address the issue of Christianism vs Folkish neo-Paganism and Europe, and during the next few days I will be out and only able to connect to check things.

So quickly..

What you call Christianism is not what I call Christianism. I don't consider most Protestant or so-called Reformed churches to be related to European Christianism, which is Catholicism in the West and Orthodoxy in the East. They are not part of Christendom because, unlike the European roots of Christendom, they were shaped (or re-shaped) under the tenants of the biblical religion of the Middle East.

It is then little wonder that those who have been under their influence call Christianism the religion of the god of the desert, or a semitic religion. They are not wrong, only that that is something that applies to the Old Testament based sects of Protestantism.

European Christianity, or Christendom, is a repository of the philosophical thoughts of the Classics and of the spiritual beliefs and traditions of the ancient Europeans. If the ancient pagan beliefs and traditions are to be found anywhere is in their adapted form in Christianity. It is little wonder that Protestants constantly accused Catholics of being pagans. And it is little surprise that Catholics viewed some Protestant churches as neo-Judaic.

On a related note, it is interesting to notice the fight of early European Christendom against Christian beliefs which were also closer to the Middle Eastern idea of Christianism. For example Arrianism, a heressy adopted early by Eastern Germanics and which was consequently friendlier and more tolerant to Jews and Judaism, while overtly hostile to the Orthodox Catholic Church.


You think that there is no influence from Protestantism in Sweden or in the Germanic countries? Then think twice. They are impregnated of it:

The ideas of Germanic and/or of Nordic supremacism are nothing but reflections of the idea of a chosen people. Of those who you call "German Americans" (or "German other New World"), who have maintained their traditions and roots in the New World more pure, have done it because many of them believe to be the Lost Tribe of Israel, the True Israelites, etc.. or they believe that their right to those lands comes from a Divine mandate.

I'm sorry to bring you the news but that is how things are.

Further, at the time when Christianity spread the different peoples of Europe, their Pagan or Pantheist beliefs were not as rooted in them as in more ancient times, and in many occasions they were but a collection of myths and traditions. Which Christianism adopted.

You simply cannot go back to an ancient Pagan spirituality because there is no memory of it. A collection of tales and myths does not make a spiritual belief. Neither for Paganism nor for Christianism. New Age Paganism or Neo-Paganism cannot offer a spiritual strength to Europeans.

Now the problem is that Christendom is no longer in the heart of the Europeans. The Church is not fulfilling her mission because it has been infiltrated, corrupted and abandoned.

And there is where we see the root for all our problems. Not having a spiritual guidance, people turn to materialist ones.


p.s. the timing is bad to write this because I've had to write this quickly and I won't be able to expand it nor discuss it further in the next few days, so take it for what it is worth to you
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