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Default Re: The Reformation and British Origins of Zionism

Interesting and wortwhile read, though the author makes various great mistakes. To begin with, the number of Jews in a given country alone says little about their influence. If poor and isolated orthodox Jews live with hundreds of thousands of people in a region in which they are not allowed to come to higher economic or political power and gentiles still control all the key positions of the country, they are no stronger force than 100 Jews controlling the financial and banking sector - by that many important families and infuencing the political system - in another.

Thats why one of the most interesting question in this connection would be to question the role of English as well as Dutch and other Central-Eastern European Jewish plutocrats in the upcoming of certain Christian sects (puritans in particular), British policy and finally the rise of Zionism.

Another important issue the article didnt dealt with sufficiently, is an established definition of Zionism or to offer different proposals for such possible definitions.

Furthermore the article as a whole concentrates too much on European colonisation, while ignoring the various developments which happened beside - inside of Europe and Neo-European countries such as the USA. Napoleon himself was, if its about the Jews, by far not that simple structured as the article suggests neither.

However, many things to discuss, possible critique...

And another question, whether serious meant and limited "Zionism", in the sense of a Jewish homeland to unite Jews in a country of their own, rather than being a dispersed minority living under gentiles, is indeed one of the best solutions thinkable for solving the problem of negative Jewish influence on gentile communities as well as Jewish (socio-cultural) degeneration because of the role they play in such gentile states in many cases.

What seems to be clear though, with or without such an article, is that many Jews themselves are part of a greater game in which they are just small chessmen themselves and with a few people from the plutocratic oligarchy determining the next move primarily on their own. In this plutocratic oligarchy are gentiles as well as Jews and its hard to determine who's really in charge and made certain decisions, but one thing is clear, Jewish families like the Rothschilds are a central part of it.
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