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What you refer to here is out of context of the topic's discussion and quite beyond its scope.
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It is much within the topic of the discussion as it responds directly to your assertion.
If you must absolutely call it something, call it inconvenient.
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Yes I can, in all fairness. Irish Nationalists are not denied their freedom or identity in Northern Ireland
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False. Their identity is Irish, not some semi-colonial lackeys of Westminster. Their freedom to reunite with their brothers of the South is denied just as well as their Free Irish identity. They have been deprived from it by means of force for hundreds of years.
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they can vote, stand for elections, freely express their views and opinions in speech or writing, own property, earn a living, have freedom of movement, practise their religion, etc.; indeed they have the full civil rights of any UK citizen.
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That is all fine for a colonial rabble. Not for a free nation.
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They can also teach, learn, and speak the Irish language and practise other elements of Irish culture if they so chose.
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Holy Cross Primary School. Parents have to escort their children to protect them from attacks from Unionists.
You have a very twisted sense of humour.
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How are Irish Nationalists denied their rights or freedom or identity within Northern Ireland and the UK? In what are they denied their freedom, rights, or identity?
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Read again above. I don't expect you to understand it. Actually, I am sure that you understand that much, but will not admit the crime.
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Irish Nationalism and Irish Nationalists are not inherently more right, morally or legally, than Ulster/Irish Unionism or Ulster/Irish Unionists. Hence, the intransigence of rights and the intractability of the situation.
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Just as British White Racists (e.g. BNP) are not inherently more right, morally or legally, than British Blacks, British Pakis or British Muslims.
I see your logics, but doo keep them only for Britain.
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