Re: Northern Ireland Unionist Leader Meets With Prime Minister of Ireland
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Originally Posted by Octillion
You asked that because gypsies had settled in Slovenia in the 16th century, did they have the right to consider Slovenia as their homeland and I said yes. Why not? Here I disagree.
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Because Slovenia is a homeland only for Slovenians. Others are foreigners.
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Ulster Protestants are ethnically British and
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What is 'ethnically British'? There is no British ethnicity.
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have formed a separate and cohesive community in Ireland and separate and cohesive national identity for almost 400 years. Ulster to Ulster Protestants has more in common with Scotland and England than it does with the rest of Ireland.
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So what? Europeans settled in America some time ago, and even consider themselves a "nation", but can they rightfully say America is their homeland? Of course not.
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They see Ulster as separate country to the rest of Ireland and they regard Ulster their homeland.
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That's how they see it, yes.
OK, I've seen the edit.
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But if you are going to condemn those lands where the natives were dispossessed at the hands of the settlers to start new countries, then you ought to, by this logic, condemn the United States, Canada, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, all of Latin America, Taiwan, Okinawa, and several others.
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Yes I would and I do. So what?
BTW do you support Israeli occupation of Palestine?
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