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Default Re: Northern Ireland Unionist Leader Meets With Prime Minister of Ireland

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My sympathy for the Isrish casue is due to several factors. First, I think the Irish nationalism isn't imperialistic. They just want to reunite their island and keep it to themselves. As far as I could discern, the Irish have no such ideas that they have some special "mission" in the world and that they want to spread "civilization" across the planet, through a violent military conquest, in order to create a "paradise on earth" (a Masonic dream). And that is precisely what the British have been doing for the last several hundred years (and now their murderous successors Americans are doing the same thing).
I think that,first and most important reason,for your sympathizing the Irish cause,is your presumption,that Irish-British case is similar to ex-Yugoslav case,which is not.And I'll stop here,because this is discussion about Ulster.

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Secondly, I have a strong dislike of the so-called modern West and its ideology (liberalism, etc), which for its most part originated in Britain and was spread around the world, often with violent means.
Me,too...but,I don't blame Britain,or England for that matter...I blame liberal-bourgeois idea,that is not British concept,but rather a consequence of Humanism and Renaissance,Rationalism,Age of enlightenment,strengthening of the bourgeois class etc.

It was also promoted by many Catholic and Protestant philosophers and ideologists...I can also say that,if there weren't Catholics and Protestants,liberal thought would have never won!

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UK was the model country for all future multicultural states. Hence no wonder that they supported a country like Yugoslavia, had a privileged relationship with that bandit creation, as the result of which "relationship" billions of (Anglo)-American dollars poured in for the keeping up that bastard country.
Interesting...and what do you say about Roman empire?Or Austrian empire,Holy Roman empire,Charlemagne empire?Bandit creations???
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