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Originally Posted by Theobald
Actually Israeli survival in the Middle-East - although I am wholly anti-Zionist - is something I really admire. Look how these 6 millions of Jews make fear hundreds of millions of Arabs. Israel is an example of how a nationalist state, its diplomacy and its defence policy should be ruled (at least the 40 first years of existence). Their motto is the end justifies the means, and it would also be mine if I ruled an endangered Nation.
I don't think they are crazy at all. For instance look at the Iranian problem from a Jewish point of view. You have the leader of the most powerful neighbouring Nation who says he wants to wipe you off the map. And now this Nation wants to get nuclear weapons. Furthermore, you have no strategic depth - unlike your enemy - and you know that, while your enemy would survive nuclear war, you would not. If you want to survive, what do you do, huh ? Do you allow him to get his mass destruction weapons ?
Tsahal and Mossad leaders are far from being crazy guys or idiots. Israeli nuclear arsenal (200 nuclear weapons if I'm not mistaken) would probably send Iran back 500 years earlier. But Iran would still survive. However it would take "only" 10, maybe 15, nuclear warheads to destroy anyone and anything lying in the Zionist-occupied areas. Had I been the Israeli PM I would already have struck Iran.
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Theobald, Iran and Israel cannot be compared from the military point of view. Israel is infinitely stronger than Iran, no matter how smaller its territory is. Both in conventional and in nuclear capabilities. Iran is not threatening Israel in any way, it is the other way around.
Even if Ahmadinejad had really said that Israel must be wiped off the map (it is not sure whether he said that or it was a media distortion, some say he referred just to the Zionist regime), his words mean nothing if he has no capabilities of doing so. I can say anything, for example that I am going to beat the hell out of, let's say, Mike Tyson, but what does it mean? What if the president of Western Samoa said that the United States of America should be "wiped off the map"....?
And Iran has no nuclear weapons, will have no in the near future, and even if they acquired one nuclear bomb, they have no delivery system to bomb Israel. Israelis would immediately know (Mossad agents would learn it) if Iran had at least one nuclear warhead, and they would act accordingly (by destroying the military installations or by a retaliatory attack).
What I want to say is that Israel has such a tactical and strategic advantage over Iran that Iran destroying Israel is not possible at this moment (I read an artcle in the Jersualem Post saying: "Iran cannot destroy Israel"), it is rather in the area of science fiction. If Israel struck Iran with nuclear weapons, which would necessarily include deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents, it would be the worst crime ever committed in the history of mankind. It wouldn't be good for Israel and the world Jewry in the long term.
So I don't think they are going to do it. Because Israeli leaders are no nutcases, they are highly sophisticated manipulators. All they do is to spread paranoia and hysteria among the Israeli population and the Jews around the world, the paranoia about the imminent catastrophe and "new holocaust" by which they are allegedly threatened by Ahmadinejad ("the new Hitler"). They know very well that they are not really threatened by Ahamdinejad, but they constantly must keep tension high in their population. Because living in constant paranoia, fear from "antisemitism" and "new holocaust", has become a way of living in large sections of the woirld Jewry. It has become their factor of cohesion, their
raison d'etre. One has the impression that Jews would immediatetely cease to be a distinct people if the outer "threat" vanished. They feed themselves by the so-called anti-semitism.
That what the whole anti-Iranian hysteria is about.