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Originally Posted by Mynydd View Post
Crusade, as a means to counter anti-Christian aggression, like Breha said, was preached often by the Catholic Church.

Spain was a constant scenario for Crusades, in favour of the Recuperatio Hispania or Reconquista. Whenever one Hispanic king organized a major campaign against Muslims on Spanish soil, the Crusade was preached in the Hispanic kingdoms.

This was important because the Pope's support to the Crusade would mean that the part of taxes collected for the Church would go to finance the campaign. Also, the Crusade could be preached among the Ultramontanos ("Trans-Pyrenaics") too.

The Crusade implied to a certain degree a call to duty for Christendom.
Yes, I agree.

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Look at the Spanish History of the Reconquista. You have great names like the Archbishop of Toledo, Ximenes de Rada, leading a Christian army with the cross on one hand and the sword on the other, in their fight for liberation in the Crusade and Battle of Las Navas in 1212. Or the Archbishop of Narbona (Narbonne) leading the army of Ultramontanos. Or Cardinal Jiménez de Cisneros organising, financing and leading the expedition of the Conquest of Oran, in Northern Africa, in 1509.
Yes, these are irrefutable historical facts. I was just saying that a principle applied in a certain historical period may not be applicable today.

But...who knows? Once all political initiatives fail, maybe Church could lead Europe towards a liberation. We cannot know the future for sure.

But at the present moment I would give preference to politics, although I doubt anything could be achieved through the "democratic" (meaning plutocratic) procedures.

Churche(s) must first recover their true original shape and mission, and only then they will be able to lead any spiritual renewal in Europe.

Last edited by Marcus Marulus; Thursday, March 22nd, 2007 at 11:36.
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