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Originally Posted by Mynydd

Surely you must be aware that this is all taken into a historical context, of which this has not been an isolated comment.

And what is this supposed to mean "one million Swedes emigrated. The same happened all over Europe, but I'm going to single out Sweden and point it out as feat of failure" is what you seem to be saying.

It bears a high cost which will have to be paid, sooner or later. And it is not only a financial cost, but also the cost incurred in having a population used to a system that has an expiry date. A sociological cost of unpredictable consequences.

Like I said, it beats most of the competition out there, and no it doesn't have an expiry date. Its up to us to steer it, you can leave it to us.

No. And I haven't said such thing.

Then please give me your definition for a successful society, because you are bashing the societies that year after year top all kinds of human development indexes.

If you find it offensive that I say that "I don't even know when --or if-- in Finland we can speak of a successful society" (or, in simpler words, I don't know.. maybe I don't even care?), then "you have a problem" and that is why I told you that I can't help you with it.

Your ignorance is quite amusing, as you try to separate Finland from the Nordic model. If Sweden can be considered a successful society at some point, then so can Finland. Your post was as ignorant as it was arrogant, and those two traits are your problems

I have to provide some sort of argumentation for saying that I don't know about Finland?

It would be interesting to hear why Finland would not qualify.

Your need for help is urgent.

These attempts at witty ad hominems demean you.

Under the same scheme which considers Greenland a Nordic country, yes. Similarly, Turkey (or part of it) is European. (Karta over Norden)

Realize that Norden is not the same thing as Scandinavia, and that Finland is an integral part of the Nordic countries through culture and history. I don't know what makes you consider yourself more of an authority on the matter than a northerner, but its annoying and absurd. You need a lesson in what the concept of Norden is.

Obviously that doesn't mean that the Turks are European just like the Inuits or the Lapps are not Nordic.

It seems you do not know what the word Nordic means in this context.

There is no deal and there is no mention of Finland there. Notice that it is a comment on its own, with a clear full stop and break line which separates it from the comment above where Finland is mentioned in a different context.

When the topic changes, its good to let the reader know, especially when it is presented under a quotation where I specifically discuss Finland.

You know, this continuous chasing me since you returned to Skadi is an obsessive disorder. You should seriously consider to get treatment for it.

I'm not sure who has the obsessive disorder: I've never been a member at Skadi.